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		<title>By: Sabeen</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2005/12/traipsing-around-in-holland.html/comment-page-1#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 03:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those loos are just some next deal, they are difficult to use.  Why do most masjids in London still have em?  Is it anything to do with the sunnah/&quot;old is gold&quot;?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;264&#039;,&#039;Sabeen&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;264&#039;,&#039;Sabeen&#039;,&#039;Those loos are just some next deal, they are difficult to use.  Why do most masjids in London still have em?  Is it anything to do with the sunnah\/\&quot;old is gold\&quot;?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those loos are just some next deal, they are difficult to use.  Why do most masjids in London still have em?  Is it anything to do with the sunnah/&#8221;old is gold&#8221;?
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		<title>By: Afs-M</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2005/12/traipsing-around-in-holland.html/comment-page-1#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Afs-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wa&#039;alaykum as-Salaam,

JazakAllahkhair for your comment. It is partly due to your blog that I joined the blogging world.

Many many years ago, on a train in Bangladesh. I recall seeing the &#039;hole in the floor&#039; type loos. But this was the real deal, since I could see the flash of the rail tracks through the hole in the floor. Since then I tend to recoil in fear when I see similar types in our Masjids (RPM also caters them).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;263&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;263&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;,&#039;Wa\&#039;alaykum as-Salaam,\n\nJazakAllahkhair for your comment. It is partly due to your blog that I joined the blogging world.\n\nMany many years ago, on a train in Bangladesh. I recall seeing the \&#039;hole in the floor\&#039; type loos. But this was the real deal, since I could see the flash of the rail tracks through the hole in the floor. Since then I tend to recoil in fear when I see similar types in our Masjids (RPM also caters them).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wa&#8217;alaykum as-Salaam,</p>
<p>JazakAllahkhair for your comment. It is partly due to your blog that I joined the blogging world.</p>
<p>Many many years ago, on a train in Bangladesh. I recall seeing the &#8216;hole in the floor&#8217; type loos. But this was the real deal, since I could see the flash of the rail tracks through the hole in the floor. Since then I tend to recoil in fear when I see similar types in our Masjids (RPM also caters them).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('263','Afs-M'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('263','Afs-M','Wa\'alaykum as-Salaam,\n\nJazakAllahkhair for your comment. It is partly due to your blog that I joined the blogging world.\n\nMany many years ago, on a train in Bangladesh. I recall seeing the \'hole in the floor\' type loos. But this was the real deal, since I could see the flash of the rail tracks through the hole in the floor. Since then I tend to recoil in fear when I see similar types in our Masjids (RPM also caters them).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Yusuf Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yusuf Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As-Salaamu &#039;alaikum,

The &quot;shelf design&quot; toilets are to be found in Germany as well.  I guess it saves the user from the dirty water which often comes up when the najasa goes in.  But when you plop into one of those ground-level toilets found in most mosques, that also just sits there unless you wash it down yourself.  You can do the same with the Dutch loos.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;262&#039;,&#039;Yusuf Smith&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;262&#039;,&#039;Yusuf Smith&#039;,&#039;As-Salaamu \&#039;alaikum,\n\nThe \&quot;shelf design\&quot; toilets are to be found in Germany as well.  I guess it saves the user from the dirty water which often comes up when the najasa goes in.  But when you plop into one of those ground-level toilets found in most mosques, that also just sits there unless you wash it down yourself.  You can do the same with the Dutch loos.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As-Salaamu &#8216;alaikum,</p>
<p>The &#8220;shelf design&#8221; toilets are to be found in Germany as well.  I guess it saves the user from the dirty water which often comes up when the najasa goes in.  But when you plop into one of those ground-level toilets found in most mosques, that also just sits there unless you wash it down yourself.  You can do the same with the Dutch loos.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('262','Yusuf Smith'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('262','Yusuf Smith','As-Salaamu \'alaikum,\n\nThe \&quot;shelf design\&quot; toilets are to be found in Germany as well.  I guess it saves the user from the dirty water which often comes up when the najasa goes in.  But when you plop into one of those ground-level toilets found in most mosques, that also just sits there unless you wash it down yourself.  You can do the same with the Dutch loos.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Afs-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afs-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasalaam sis,</p>
<p>Been to France and Norway with my family, but going with bro&#8217;s (or sisters in your case) is more fun due to the greater independence you have.</p>
<p>Generally everything seems cool when it is a vacation. Living there though might be quite hard. Jobs harder to come by if you got an Islamic sounding name. The way they drink and smoke weed makes it hard to socialise (if it is ever needed). Also their overly liberal attitudes can sometimes wanna make you slap someone. I remember coming into the WH Smiths equivalent shop at the airport, was shocked to see porn mags not on the top shelf, but occupying the whole middle shelves. Also some guy on the train casually reading a porno whilst sitting next to us.</p>
<p>But my fav thing has to be the public transport system. Cheaper, quicker and deadly efficient. I understand their public transport better than our own and thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s after 1 week there and my 23 years here.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('261','Afs-M'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('261','Afs-M','Wasalaam sis,\n\nBeen to France and Norway with my family, but going with bro\'s (or sisters in your case) is more fun due to the greater independence you have.\n\nGenerally everything seems cool when it is a vacation. Living there though might be quite hard. Jobs harder to come by if you got an Islamic sounding name. The way they drink and smoke weed makes it hard to socialise (if it is ever needed). Also their overly liberal attitudes can sometimes wanna make you slap someone. I remember coming into the WH Smiths equivalent shop at the airport, was shocked to see porn mags not on the top shelf, but occupying the whole middle shelves. Also some guy on the train casually reading a porno whilst sitting next to us.\n\nBut my fav thing has to be the public transport system. Cheaper, quicker and deadly efficient. I understand their public transport better than our own and that&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&acirc;„&cent;s after 1 week there and my 23 years here.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Zaynab Dismantled</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2005/12/traipsing-around-in-holland.html/comment-page-1#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>Zaynab Dismantled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam

Never been to Holland, seems cool

&#039;part from the toilets. Weird.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;260&#039;,&#039;Zaynab Dismantled&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;260&#039;,&#039;Zaynab Dismantled&#039;,&#039;Salaam\n\nNever been to Holland, seems cool\n\n\&#039;part from the toilets. Weird.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam</p>
<p>Never been to Holland, seems cool</p>
<p>&#8216;part from the toilets. Weird.
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		<title>By: Afs-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afs-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasalaam,

InshAllah one day bro. I&#039;ve heard Munich is very nice place to visit. Though I haven&#039;t practiced my German in years. Likewise for you to visit us in the UK :)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;259&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;259&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;,&#039;Wasalaam,\n\nInshAllah one day bro. I\&#039;ve heard Munich is very nice place to visit. Though I haven\&#039;t practiced my German in years. Likewise for you to visit us in the UK :)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasalaam,</p>
<p>InshAllah one day bro. I&#8217;ve heard Munich is very nice place to visit. Though I haven&#8217;t practiced my German in years. Likewise for you to visit us in the UK <img src='http://islamicpolitik.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Der Muslim von nebenan</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2005/12/traipsing-around-in-holland.html/comment-page-1#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Der Muslim von nebenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salaam bro, 

You have a nice blog. Will you visit Germany or Sweden, so let me know ;) We have better loos&#039; ;)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;258&#039;,&#039;Der Muslim von nebenan&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;258&#039;,&#039;Der Muslim von nebenan&#039;,&#039;Salaam bro, \n\nYou have a nice blog. Will you visit Germany or Sweden, so let me know ;) We have better loos\&#039; ;)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salaam bro, </p>
<p>You have a nice blog. Will you visit Germany or Sweden, so let me know <img src='http://islamicpolitik.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  We have better loos&#8217; <img src='http://islamicpolitik.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Afs-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afs-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol!! Its a good thing I didn&#039;t stay there too long.

If there were any shops that I actually spent time on &#039;window shopping&#039; (from the outside), it would be the &#039;coffee shops&#039;. Once because me and the bro&#039;s thought it was a kebab shop, and others simply because you would wonder what goes on inside...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;257&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;257&#039;,&#039;Afs-M&#039;,&#039;Lol!! Its a good thing I didn\&#039;t stay there too long.\n\nIf there were any shops that I actually spent time on \&#039;window shopping\&#039; (from the outside), it would be the \&#039;coffee shops\&#039;. Once because me and the bro\&#039;s thought it was a kebab shop, and others simply because you would wonder what goes on inside...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol!! Its a good thing I didn&#8217;t stay there too long.</p>
<p>If there were any shops that I actually spent time on &#8216;window shopping&#8217; (from the outside), it would be the &#8216;coffee shops&#8217;. Once because me and the bro&#8217;s thought it was a kebab shop, and others simply because you would wonder what goes on inside&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('257','Afs-M'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('257','Afs-M','Lol!! Its a good thing I didn\'t stay there too long.\n\nIf there were any shops that I actually spent time on \'window shopping\' (from the outside), it would be the \'coffee shops\'. Once because me and the bro\'s thought it was a kebab shop, and others simply because you would wonder what goes on inside...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAHAH!  SubhanAllah, I&#039;m sure this exposes my jahiliyyah, but I couldn&#039;t help but giggle when you said:

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Before I arrived, my biggest worry was finding halal &lt;B&gt;joints&lt;/B&gt;&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

and

&lt;I&gt;&quot;Holland is criss-crossed with thousands of miles of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adyke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dykes&lt;/A&gt;&quot;&lt;/I&gt;

Man... I need to grow up.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;256&#039;,&#039;Shaykh Rattle \&#039;n\&#039; Roll&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;256&#039;,&#039;Shaykh Rattle \&#039;n\&#039; Roll&#039;,&#039;HAHAH!  SubhanAllah, I\&#039;m sure this exposes my jahiliyyah, but I couldn\&#039;t help but giggle when you said:\n\n&lt;I&gt;\&quot;Before I arrived, my biggest worry was finding halal &lt;B&gt;joints&lt;\/B&gt;\&quot;&lt;\/I&gt;\n\nand\n\n&lt;I&gt;\&quot;Holland is criss-crossed with thousands of miles of &lt;a HREF=\&quot;http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=define%3Adyke\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;dykes&lt;\/A&gt;\&quot;&lt;\/I&gt;\n\nMan... I need to grow up.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAHAH!  SubhanAllah, I&#8217;m sure this exposes my jahiliyyah, but I couldn&#8217;t help but giggle when you said:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Before I arrived, my biggest worry was finding halal <b>joints</b>&#8220;</i></p>
<p>and</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Holland is criss-crossed with thousands of miles of <a HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adyke" rel="nofollow">dykes</a>&#8220;</i></p>
<p>Man&#8230; I need to grow up.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('256','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('256','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','HAHAH!  SubhanAllah, I\'m sure this exposes my jahiliyyah, but I couldn\'t help but giggle when you said:\n\n&lt;I&gt;\&quot;Before I arrived, my biggest worry was finding halal &lt;B&gt;joints&lt;\/B&gt;\&quot;&lt;\/I&gt;\n\nand\n\n&lt;I&gt;\&quot;Holland is criss-crossed with thousands of miles of &lt;a HREF=\&quot;http:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=define%3Adyke\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;dykes&lt;\/A&gt;\&quot;&lt;\/I&gt;\n\nMan... I need to grow up.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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