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		<title>By: Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2006/02/insults-the-fundamental-of-freedom-of-speech.html#comment-355</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 21:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lehto,

I had to edit your comment, because it was incoherent.  I've tried to retain as much of your original comment as I could, but please try to stay on topic.  I fail to see how Russia has anything to do with this?

As for your point about freedom of ownership and freedom of expression, I think you're right.  Perhaps that isn't what you expected me to say?  The point is that if we all followed freedom as absolutists rather than as pragmatists, which is what you are suggesting, you are 100% correct.  Of course, you mistakenly assume that we accept freedom as a basis for action.  It really shouldn't take too long for you to have a look around on the blog and see that your assumption is unfounded.

I am yet to hear a justification for your statement that "burning a QurÃ¢â‚¬â„¢an is not a political issue".  I think you'll find that you're mistaken, and quite possibly just lying.  If it was completely apolitical, I doubt you'd be doing it at all.  People have better things to do with their time and money than to buy a specific book so that they can make a bonfire.  You aren't doing a particularly good job of lying to us, and it makes you look a bit silly.

I really have little interest in how you choose to act.  I am more concerned with how you make the decision to act at all.  With freedom as a criterion, you are destined for failure.  Let's be clear:  you are suggesting unrestricted freedom.  The contradiction will naturally arise when you are faced with a clash between your freedom and someone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  Who decides?  As soon as a decision is made, someone has lost their freedom, and again your very criterion is contradicted.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('355','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('355','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','Lehto,\r\n\r\nI had to edit your comment, because it was incoherent.  I\'ve tried to retain as much of your original comment as I could, but please try to stay on topic.  I fail to see how Russia has anything to do with this?\r\n\r\nAs for your point about freedom of ownership and freedom of expression, I think you\'re right.  Perhaps that isn\'t what you expected me to say?  The point is that if we all followed freedom as absolutists rather than as pragmatists, which is what you are suggesting, you are 100% correct.  Of course, you mistakenly assume that we accept freedom as a basis for action.  It really shouldn\'t take too long for you to have a look around on the blog and see that your assumption is unfounded.\r\n\r\nI am yet to hear a justification for your statement that \&#34;burning a Qur&#195;&#162;&#226;‚&#172;&#226;„&#162;an is not a political issue\&#34;.  I think you\'ll find that you\'re mistaken, and quite possibly just lying.  If it was completely apolitical, I doubt you\'d be doing it at all.  People have better things to do with their time and money than to buy a specific book so that they can make a bonfire.  You aren\'t doing a particularly good job of lying to us, and it makes you look a bit silly.\r\n\r\nI really have little interest in how you choose to act.  I am more concerned with how you make the decision to act at all.  With freedom as a criterion, you are destined for failure.  Let\'s be clear:  you are suggesting unrestricted freedom.  The contradiction will naturally arise when you are faced with a clash between your freedom and someone else&#195;&#162;&#226;‚&#172;&#226;„&#162;s.  Who decides?  As soon as a decision is made, someone has lost their freedom, and again your very criterion is contradicted.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lehto,</p>
<p>I had to edit your comment, because it was incoherent.  I&#8217;ve tried to retain as much of your original comment as I could, but please try to stay on topic.  I fail to see how Russia has anything to do with this?</p>
<p>As for your point about freedom of ownership and freedom of expression, I think you&#8217;re right.  Perhaps that isn&#8217;t what you expected me to say?  The point is that if we all followed freedom as absolutists rather than as pragmatists, which is what you are suggesting, you are 100% correct.  Of course, you mistakenly assume that we accept freedom as a basis for action.  It really shouldn&#8217;t take too long for you to have a look around on the blog and see that your assumption is unfounded.</p>
<p>I am yet to hear a justification for your statement that &#8220;burning a QurÃ¢â‚¬â„¢an is not a political issue&#8221;.  I think you&#8217;ll find that you&#8217;re mistaken, and quite possibly just lying.  If it was completely apolitical, I doubt you&#8217;d be doing it at all.  People have better things to do with their time and money than to buy a specific book so that they can make a bonfire.  You aren&#8217;t doing a particularly good job of lying to us, and it makes you look a bit silly.</p>
<p>I really have little interest in how you choose to act.  I am more concerned with how you make the decision to act at all.  With freedom as a criterion, you are destined for failure.  Let&#8217;s be clear:  you are suggesting unrestricted freedom.  The contradiction will naturally arise when you are faced with a clash between your freedom and someone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s.  Who decides?  As soon as a decision is made, someone has lost their freedom, and again your very criterion is contradicted.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('355','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('355','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','Lehto,\r\n\r\nI had to edit your comment, because it was incoherent.  I\'ve tried to retain as much of your original comment as I could, but please try to stay on topic.  I fail to see how Russia has anything to do with this?\r\n\r\nAs for your point about freedom of ownership and freedom of expression, I think you\'re right.  Perhaps that isn\'t what you expected me to say?  The point is that if we all followed freedom as absolutists rather than as pragmatists, which is what you are suggesting, you are 100% correct.  Of course, you mistakenly assume that we accept freedom as a basis for action.  It really shouldn\'t take too long for you to have a look around on the blog and see that your assumption is unfounded.\r\n\r\nI am yet to hear a justification for your statement that \&quot;burning a Qur&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&acirc;„&cent;an is not a political issue\&quot;.  I think you\'ll find that you\'re mistaken, and quite possibly just lying.  If it was completely apolitical, I doubt you\'d be doing it at all.  People have better things to do with their time and money than to buy a specific book so that they can make a bonfire.  You aren\'t doing a particularly good job of lying to us, and it makes you look a bit silly.\r\n\r\nI really have little interest in how you choose to act.  I am more concerned with how you make the decision to act at all.  With freedom as a criterion, you are destined for failure.  Let\'s be clear:  you are suggesting unrestricted freedom.  The contradiction will naturally arise when you are faced with a clash between your freedom and someone else&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&acirc;„&cent;s.  Who decides?  As soon as a decision is made, someone has lost their freedom, and again your very criterion is contradicted.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 14:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone owns quran it`s his business what to do it

To keep it in his own bookstore or burn it = That`s just pure choise of owner. It`s not a political issue at all.

That`s not any issue if somebody use pages of quran to wipe his ass or put it fire&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('354','Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('354','Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom','If someone owns quran it`s his business what to do it\r\n\r\nTo keep it in his own bookstore or burn it = That`s just pure choise of owner. It`s not a political issue at all.\r\n\r\nThat`s not any issue if somebody use pages of quran to wipe his ass or put it fire'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone owns quran it`s his business what to do it</p>
<p>To keep it in his own bookstore or burn it = That`s just pure choise of owner. It`s not a political issue at all.</p>
<p>That`s not any issue if somebody use pages of quran to wipe his ass or put it fire
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('354','Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('354','Seppo Lehto  Reminder of capitalism and freedom','If someone owns quran it`s his business what to do it\r\n\r\nTo keep it in his own bookstore or burn it = That`s just pure choise of owner. It`s not a political issue at all.\r\n\r\nThat`s not any issue if somebody use pages of quran to wipe his ass or put it fire'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: slave of Allah</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2006/02/insults-the-fundamental-of-freedom-of-speech.html#comment-351</link>
		<dc:creator>slave of Allah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehehe

The issues raised by this event have done far more than just enrage Muslim communities worldwide. The publication of the cartoons challenge the core values of the society we live in.

Personally, I believe the cartoons showed complete disregard of a faith, were offensive, unnecessary and were used to agitate the Muslim community.

The man who decided to publish these cartoons thought otherwise, believing them to be a legitimate satirical depiction of a character from the past.

Surely this simplest difference challenges the notion of Ã¢â‚¬Ëœfreedom of opinion,Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ thus exposing the fallacy of the current system from its very basis...&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('351','slave of Allah'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('351','slave of Allah','hehehe\r\n\r\nThe issues raised by this event have done far more than just enrage Muslim communities worldwide. The publication of the cartoons challenge the core values of the society we live in.\r\n\r\nPersonally, I believe the cartoons showed complete disregard of a faith, were offensive, unnecessary and were used to agitate the Muslim community.\r\n\r\nThe man who decided to publish these cartoons thought otherwise, believing them to be a legitimate satirical depiction of a character from the past.\r\n\r\nSurely this simplest difference challenges the notion of &#195;&#162;&#226;‚&#172;&#203;œfreedom of opinion,&#195;&#162;&#226;‚&#172;&#226;„&#162; thus exposing the fallacy of the current system from its very basis...'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehehe</p>
<p>The issues raised by this event have done far more than just enrage Muslim communities worldwide. The publication of the cartoons challenge the core values of the society we live in.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe the cartoons showed complete disregard of a faith, were offensive, unnecessary and were used to agitate the Muslim community.</p>
<p>The man who decided to publish these cartoons thought otherwise, believing them to be a legitimate satirical depiction of a character from the past.</p>
<p>Surely this simplest difference challenges the notion of Ã¢â‚¬Ëœfreedom of opinion,Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ thus exposing the fallacy of the current system from its very basis&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('351','slave of Allah'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('351','slave of Allah','hehehe\r\n\r\nThe issues raised by this event have done far more than just enrage Muslim communities worldwide. The publication of the cartoons challenge the core values of the society we live in.\r\n\r\nPersonally, I believe the cartoons showed complete disregard of a faith, were offensive, unnecessary and were used to agitate the Muslim community.\r\n\r\nThe man who decided to publish these cartoons thought otherwise, believing them to be a legitimate satirical depiction of a character from the past.\r\n\r\nSurely this simplest difference challenges the notion of &Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&Euml;œfreedom of opinion,&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&acirc;„&cent; thus exposing the fallacy of the current system from its very basis...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Babs-M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Babs-M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Ande Ka Phanda - this was sent to me in a text.  I thought it would be nice to share:

"Here we stand all together
In this crappy British weather
Flemming Rose, the little snot
Phlegm you are, rose you're not
Your challenge truly was absurd
Your words smelt like doggy turd
I must admit I tell a lie
Compared to you, dog poo is pie
Jyllands Posten, the new bog roll
Flush it down the toilet bowl
Danish, Spanish, Germ and French
Collectively, God what a stench"
- by Anonymous&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('350','Babs-M'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('350','Babs-M','Ok Ande Ka Phanda - this was sent to me in a text.  I thought it would be nice to share:\r\n\r\n\&#34;Here we stand all together\r\nIn this crappy British weather\r\nFlemming Rose, the little snot\r\nPhlegm you are, rose you\'re not\r\nYour challenge truly was absurd\r\nYour words smelt like doggy turd\r\nI must admit I tell a lie\r\nCompared to you, dog poo is pie\r\nJyllands Posten, the new bog roll\r\nFlush it down the toilet bowl\r\nDanish, Spanish, Germ and French\r\nCollectively, God what a stench\&#34;\r\n- by Anonymous'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Ande Ka Phanda - this was sent to me in a text.  I thought it would be nice to share:</p>
<p>&#8220;Here we stand all together<br />
In this crappy British weather<br />
Flemming Rose, the little snot<br />
Phlegm you are, rose you&#8217;re not<br />
Your challenge truly was absurd<br />
Your words smelt like doggy turd<br />
I must admit I tell a lie<br />
Compared to you, dog poo is pie<br />
Jyllands Posten, the new bog roll<br />
Flush it down the toilet bowl<br />
Danish, Spanish, Germ and French<br />
Collectively, God what a stench&#8221;<br />
- by Anonymous
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('350','Babs-M'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('350','Babs-M','Ok Ande Ka Phanda - this was sent to me in a text.  I thought it would be nice to share:\r\n\r\n\&quot;Here we stand all together\r\nIn this crappy British weather\r\nFlemming Rose, the little snot\r\nPhlegm you are, rose you\'re not\r\nYour challenge truly was absurd\r\nYour words smelt like doggy turd\r\nI must admit I tell a lie\r\nCompared to you, dog poo is pie\r\nJyllands Posten, the new bog roll\r\nFlush it down the toilet bowl\r\nDanish, Spanish, Germ and French\r\nCollectively, God what a stench\&quot;\r\n- by Anonymous'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ande ka phanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ande ka phanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just quickly wanted to comment on the double standards of the Danish Government.

In Denmark:

Section 140 of the Criminal Code prohibits any person from publicly ridiculing or insulting the dogmas of worship of any lawfully existing religious community in Denmark.

Section 266b criminalises the dissemination of statements or other information by which a group of people are threatened, insulted or degraded on account of their religion.

So basically the Danish Government had the power to prevent these picture to be published. But instead we wittnessed the arrogance of the government and repeated statement that the government cannot interfere with the media. To me this just shows severe prejudice towards Islam.

Is it a suprise the Muslims are showing there anger at the Embassies rather than just the newspaper?&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('349','Ande ka phanda'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('349','Ande ka phanda','Just quickly wanted to comment on the double standards of the Danish Government.\r\n\r\nIn Denmark:\r\n\r\nSection 140 of the Criminal Code prohibits any person from publicly ridiculing or insulting the dogmas of worship of any lawfully existing religious community in Denmark.\r\n\r\nSection 266b criminalises the dissemination of statements or other information by which a group of people are threatened, insulted or degraded on account of their religion.\r\n\r\nSo basically the Danish Government had the power to prevent these picture to be published. But instead we wittnessed the arrogance of the government and repeated statement that the government cannot interfere with the media. To me this just shows severe prejudice towards Islam.\r\n\r\nIs it a suprise the Muslims are showing there anger at the Embassies rather than just the newspaper?'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just quickly wanted to comment on the double standards of the Danish Government.</p>
<p>In Denmark:</p>
<p>Section 140 of the Criminal Code prohibits any person from publicly ridiculing or insulting the dogmas of worship of any lawfully existing religious community in Denmark.</p>
<p>Section 266b criminalises the dissemination of statements or other information by which a group of people are threatened, insulted or degraded on account of their religion.</p>
<p>So basically the Danish Government had the power to prevent these picture to be published. But instead we wittnessed the arrogance of the government and repeated statement that the government cannot interfere with the media. To me this just shows severe prejudice towards Islam.</p>
<p>Is it a suprise the Muslims are showing there anger at the Embassies rather than just the newspaper?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('349','Ande ka phanda'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('349','Ande ka phanda','Just quickly wanted to comment on the double standards of the Danish Government.\r\n\r\nIn Denmark:\r\n\r\nSection 140 of the Criminal Code prohibits any person from publicly ridiculing or insulting the dogmas of worship of any lawfully existing religious community in Denmark.\r\n\r\nSection 266b criminalises the dissemination of statements or other information by which a group of people are threatened, insulted or degraded on account of their religion.\r\n\r\nSo basically the Danish Government had the power to prevent these picture to be published. But instead we wittnessed the arrogance of the government and repeated statement that the government cannot interfere with the media. To me this just shows severe prejudice towards Islam.\r\n\r\nIs it a suprise the Muslims are showing there anger at the Embassies rather than just the newspaper?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lehto,

Thanks for reminding us that pathetic idiots exist on all sides.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('348','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('348','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','Lehto,\r\n\r\nThanks for reminding us that pathetic idiots exist on all sides.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lehto,</p>
<p>Thanks for reminding us that pathetic idiots exist on all sides.
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		<title>By: Lehto Seppo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lehto Seppo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 07:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have already burn few qurans in Finland in this weekend as a support to Denmark

Finnishe media has sensored those pictures, which they took about these burnings.

Seppo Lehto - Finnland&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('340','Lehto Seppo'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('340','Lehto Seppo','We have already burn few qurans in Finland in this weekend as a support to Denmark\r\n\r\nFinnishe media has sensored those pictures, which they took about these burnings.\r\n\r\nSeppo Lehto - Finnland'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have already burn few qurans in Finland in this weekend as a support to Denmark</p>
<p>Finnishe media has sensored those pictures, which they took about these burnings.</p>
<p>Seppo Lehto - Finnland
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		<title>By: Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaykh Rattle 'n' Roll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 12:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some journalists have made statements about Arab ignorance of European governmental involvement in the media. The argument they are making is that Arabs are so used to the press being controlled by the government of a country that they are blaming the Danish government for the actions of Jyllands-Posten. Of course this could be true for some, but that really avoids the issue at hand. It isn't simply that the protesters want censorship of the media. They are calling for the recognition of the responsibility that accompanies all privileges.The press should not be stopped from reporting on legitimate news events, but I fail to see how these cartoons do that at all. Freedom of the press is not absolute. If the newspaper was to print images Martin Luther King as a slave under the guise of 'satire', I'm quite certain they would be facing prosecution.

This leads to the second point:
"Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example"

Some people are legitimately protesting to express their love for Muhammad (saws) and to show their disgust at the publishing of these images. Others have transgressed the boundaries. In destroying buildings and engaging in violence, they have stepped outside the example of Muhammad (saws) and are giving more fuel to those who would slander Islam.

When Prophet Muhammad (saws) was insulted - as consistently occurred during his lifetime - his response was to challenge the basis of the slander. However emotive these images are, they don't justify acting in such a manner as would take a man to Hellfire.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('337','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('337','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','Some journalists have made statements about Arab ignorance of European governmental involvement in the media. The argument they are making is that Arabs are so used to the press being controlled by the government of a country that they are blaming the Danish government for the actions of Jyllands-Posten. Of course this could be true for some, but that really avoids the issue at hand. It isn\'t simply that the protesters want censorship of the media. They are calling for the recognition of the responsibility that accompanies all privileges.The press should not be stopped from reporting on legitimate news events, but I fail to see how these cartoons do that at all. Freedom of the press is not absolute. If the newspaper was to print images Martin Luther King as a slave under the guise of \'satire\', I\'m quite certain they would be facing prosecution.\r\n\r\nThis leads to the second point:\r\n\&#34;Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example\&#34;\r\n\r\nSome people are legitimately protesting to express their love for Muhammad (saws) and to show their disgust at the publishing of these images. Others have transgressed the boundaries. In destroying buildings and engaging in violence, they have stepped outside the example of Muhammad (saws) and are giving more fuel to those who would slander Islam.\r\n\r\nWhen Prophet Muhammad (saws) was insulted - as consistently occurred during his lifetime - his response was to challenge the basis of the slander. However emotive these images are, they don\'t justify acting in such a manner as would take a man to Hellfire.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some journalists have made statements about Arab ignorance of European governmental involvement in the media. The argument they are making is that Arabs are so used to the press being controlled by the government of a country that they are blaming the Danish government for the actions of Jyllands-Posten. Of course this could be true for some, but that really avoids the issue at hand. It isn&#8217;t simply that the protesters want censorship of the media. They are calling for the recognition of the responsibility that accompanies all privileges.The press should not be stopped from reporting on legitimate news events, but I fail to see how these cartoons do that at all. Freedom of the press is not absolute. If the newspaper was to print images Martin Luther King as a slave under the guise of &#8217;satire&#8217;, I&#8217;m quite certain they would be facing prosecution.</p>
<p>This leads to the second point:<br />
&#8220;Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example&#8221;</p>
<p>Some people are legitimately protesting to express their love for Muhammad (saws) and to show their disgust at the publishing of these images. Others have transgressed the boundaries. In destroying buildings and engaging in violence, they have stepped outside the example of Muhammad (saws) and are giving more fuel to those who would slander Islam.</p>
<p>When Prophet Muhammad (saws) was insulted - as consistently occurred during his lifetime - his response was to challenge the basis of the slander. However emotive these images are, they don&#8217;t justify acting in such a manner as would take a man to Hellfire.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('337','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('337','Shaykh Rattle \'n\' Roll','Some journalists have made statements about Arab ignorance of European governmental involvement in the media. The argument they are making is that Arabs are so used to the press being controlled by the government of a country that they are blaming the Danish government for the actions of Jyllands-Posten. Of course this could be true for some, but that really avoids the issue at hand. It isn\'t simply that the protesters want censorship of the media. They are calling for the recognition of the responsibility that accompanies all privileges.The press should not be stopped from reporting on legitimate news events, but I fail to see how these cartoons do that at all. Freedom of the press is not absolute. If the newspaper was to print images Martin Luther King as a slave under the guise of \'satire\', I\'m quite certain they would be facing prosecution.\r\n\r\nThis leads to the second point:\r\n\&quot;Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent example\&quot;\r\n\r\nSome people are legitimately protesting to express their love for Muhammad (saws) and to show their disgust at the publishing of these images. Others have transgressed the boundaries. In destroying buildings and engaging in violence, they have stepped outside the example of Muhammad (saws) and are giving more fuel to those who would slander Islam.\r\n\r\nWhen Prophet Muhammad (saws) was insulted - as consistently occurred during his lifetime - his response was to challenge the basis of the slander. However emotive these images are, they don\'t justify acting in such a manner as would take a man to Hellfire.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Opinionated Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opinionated Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I know some of us are very angry over the depictions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that were very offensive. With all the negative publicity and opinion thrown at Islam since the World Trade Centre was hit by planes, I&#8217;m not surprised that many of us are at breaking point. Subsequently, many innocent Muslims from across the Middle-East have been slaughtered and imprisoned. In the west, many Muslims have been attacked, ostracised, spat upon in the streets and more. I assume that for many these offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were the last straw. I was myself further disgusted today in finding that Wikipedia has now published them too. However, what I fail to understand is that for an issue that has been simmering for many months, why it has suddenly hit boiling point. Furthermore, I am unable to comprehend what purpose can be gained from worldwide demonstrations, violent protests and burning embassies in Syria and Lebanon, which Bin Laden would be proud of. I hate those that offend Islam, and I hate those that purposely bring it into disrepute also. For a people which have the fastest growing religion with such a wealth of morals and values, it is absurd that we are now known to become more outraged over these cartoons then we do over poverty, occupation, terrorism, war and oppression. What has been defined as a spirit of defiance is in fact a collective act of irrationality. We are a people that once ruled much of the world, but this current outburst of irrational emotion and activity suggests why we are now instead ruled throughout much of the world. I have read that it is not all Muslims, but just a minority that are the cause of these protests. However, selective reporting or not, it appears that a significant amount of followers have now joined in and are providing their support. [...]&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('336','Opinionated Voice'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('336','Opinionated Voice','&#38;#91;...&#38;#93; I know some of us are very angry over the depictions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that were very offensive. With all the negative publicity and opinion thrown at Islam since the World Trade Centre was hit by planes, I&#38;#8217;m not surprised that many of us are at breaking point. Subsequently, many innocent Muslims from across the Middle-East have been slaughtered and imprisoned. In the west, many Muslims have been attacked, ostracised, spat upon in the streets and more. I assume that for many these offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were the last straw. I was myself further disgusted today in finding that Wikipedia has now published them too. However, what I fail to understand is that for an issue that has been simmering for many months, why it has suddenly hit boiling point. Furthermore, I am unable to comprehend what purpose can be gained from worldwide demonstrations, violent protests and burning embassies in Syria and Lebanon, which Bin Laden would be proud of. I hate those that offend Islam, and I hate those that purposely bring it into disrepute also. For a people which have the fastest growing religion with such a wealth of morals and values, it is absurd that we are now known to become more outraged over these cartoons then we do over poverty, occupation, terrorism, war and oppression. What has been defined as a spirit of defiance is in fact a collective act of irrationality. We are a people that once ruled much of the world, but this current outburst of irrational emotion and activity suggests why we are now instead ruled throughout much of the world. I have read that it is not all Muslims, but just a minority that are the cause of these protests. However, selective reporting or not, it appears that a significant amount of followers have now joined in and are providing their support. &#38;#91;...&#38;#93;'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I know some of us are very angry over the depictions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that were very offensive. With all the negative publicity and opinion thrown at Islam since the World Trade Centre was hit by planes, I&#8217;m not surprised that many of us are at breaking point. Subsequently, many innocent Muslims from across the Middle-East have been slaughtered and imprisoned. In the west, many Muslims have been attacked, ostracised, spat upon in the streets and more. I assume that for many these offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were the last straw. I was myself further disgusted today in finding that Wikipedia has now published them too. However, what I fail to understand is that for an issue that has been simmering for many months, why it has suddenly hit boiling point. Furthermore, I am unable to comprehend what purpose can be gained from worldwide demonstrations, violent protests and burning embassies in Syria and Lebanon, which Bin Laden would be proud of. I hate those that offend Islam, and I hate those that purposely bring it into disrepute also. For a people which have the fastest growing religion with such a wealth of morals and values, it is absurd that we are now known to become more outraged over these cartoons then we do over poverty, occupation, terrorism, war and oppression. What has been defined as a spirit of defiance is in fact a collective act of irrationality. We are a people that once ruled much of the world, but this current outburst of irrational emotion and activity suggests why we are now instead ruled throughout much of the world. I have read that it is not all Muslims, but just a minority that are the cause of these protests. However, selective reporting or not, it appears that a significant amount of followers have now joined in and are providing their support. [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('336','Opinionated Voice'); return false;">Reply</a>  - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('336','Opinionated Voice','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; I know some of us are very angry over the depictions of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) that were very offensive. With all the negative publicity and opinion thrown at Islam since the World Trade Centre was hit by planes, I&amp;#8217;m not surprised that many of us are at breaking point. Subsequently, many innocent Muslims from across the Middle-East have been slaughtered and imprisoned. In the west, many Muslims have been attacked, ostracised, spat upon in the streets and more. I assume that for many these offensive cartoons of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) were the last straw. I was myself further disgusted today in finding that Wikipedia has now published them too. However, what I fail to understand is that for an issue that has been simmering for many months, why it has suddenly hit boiling point. Furthermore, I am unable to comprehend what purpose can be gained from worldwide demonstrations, violent protests and burning embassies in Syria and Lebanon, which Bin Laden would be proud of. I hate those that offend Islam, and I hate those that purposely bring it into disrepute also. For a people which have the fastest growing religion with such a wealth of morals and values, it is absurd that we are now known to become more outraged over these cartoons then we do over poverty, occupation, terrorism, war and oppression. What has been defined as a spirit of defiance is in fact a collective act of irrationality. We are a people that once ruled much of the world, but this current outburst of irrational emotion and activity suggests why we are now instead ruled throughout much of the world. I have read that it is not all Muslims, but just a minority that are the cause of these protests. However, selective reporting or not, it appears that a significant amount of followers have now joined in and are providing their support. &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Sabeen</title>
		<link>http://islamicpolitik.com/2006/02/insults-the-fundamental-of-freedom-of-speech.html#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>Sabeen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2006 12:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu 'alaikum.

The mashed concept 'Freedom of speech' justifies these peoples actions.

So unfortunate and shocking to hear about the muslimah promoting the printing.

May Allah (swt) guide us all, Ameen.&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('334','Sabeen'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('334','Sabeen','Assalamu \'alaikum.\r\n\r\nThe mashed concept \'Freedom of speech\' justifies these peoples actions.\r\n\r\nSo unfortunate and shocking to hear about the muslimah promoting the printing.\r\n\r\nMay Allah (swt) guide us all, Ameen.'); return false;"&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu &#8216;alaikum.</p>
<p>The mashed concept &#8216;Freedom of speech&#8217; justifies these peoples actions.</p>
<p>So unfortunate and shocking to hear about the muslimah promoting the printing.</p>
<p>May Allah (swt) guide us all, Ameen.
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