Comments on: Gaza and the wrong solutions http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions An invasion of armies can be resisted, but not an idea whose time has come Mon, 04 Jul 2011 03:09:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Hizb London http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1129 Hizb London Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:56:25 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1129 In a sense it's good that more Muslims globally are wanting to take a course of action or send irrelevant charity that some Palestinians get annoyed about. However, if only the ummah realised that if she looked at what the root solution to the root problem of our situation was, and then channeled all her energy into one unified course of action in aim of that objective, and then made dua', we would have change by Friday Jum'ah, Allah Willing. "Allah does not change the circumstance of a people (nation) until...(unification in Ideology leads to Ideological change). Unfortunately, it seems we have to keep making the same mistakes and getting bitten...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1129','Hizb London'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1129','Hizb London','In a sense it\'s good that more Muslims globally are wanting to take a course of action or send irrelevant charity that some Palestinians get annoyed about. However, if only the ummah realised that if she looked at what the root solution to the root problem of our situation was, and then channeled all her energy into one unified course of action in aim of that objective, and then made dua\', we would have change by Friday Jum\'ah, Allah Willing. \"Allah does not change the circumstance of a people (nation) until...(unification in Ideology leads to Ideological change). Unfortunately, it seems we have to keep making the same mistakes and getting bitten...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> In a sense it’s good that more Muslims globally are wanting to take a course of action or send irrelevant charity that some Palestinians get annoyed about. However, if only the ummah realised that if she looked at what the root solution to the root problem of our situation was, and then channeled all her energy into one unified course of action in aim of that objective, and then made dua’, we would have change by Friday Jum’ah, Allah Willing. “Allah does not change the circumstance of a people (nation) until…(unification in Ideology leads to Ideological change). Unfortunately, it seems we have to keep making the same mistakes and getting bitten…
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]]> By: George Carty http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1115 George Carty Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:53:46 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1115 What's the point of fighting Israel? The Arabs can't possibly win against Israel, because Israel has nuclear weapons!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1115','George Carty'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1115','George Carty','What\'s the point of fighting Israel? The Arabs can\'t possibly win against Israel, because Israel has nuclear weapons!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What’s the point of fighting Israel? The Arabs can’t possibly win against Israel, because Israel has nuclear weapons!
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]]> By: Abu Hajjer http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1098 Abu Hajjer Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:26:27 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1098 I'll gladly name and shame those so called Muslims who helped create Israel. King Abdullah of Jordan who made a secret agreement with the Jews that he would support them in taking Palestine as long as he was given the West Bank to incorporate into his Hashemite Kingdom. Abdullah said that he had no intention to "resist or impede the partition of Palestine and creation of a Jewish state." So my friend King Abdullah of Jordan and the other rulers of the Arab countries including king Faisal of Iraq (both are blood brothers, their father was the Sharif of Mecca and both British agents) helped serve Britain's interests in the creation of Israel. I condemn them!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1098','Abu Hajjer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1098','Abu Hajjer','I\'ll gladly name and shame those so called Muslims who helped create Israel. King Abdullah of Jordan who made a secret agreement with the Jews that he would support them in taking Palestine as long as he was given the West Bank to incorporate into his Hashemite Kingdom. Abdullah said that he had no intention to \"resist or impede the partition of Palestine and creation of a Jewish state.\" So my friend King Abdullah of Jordan and the other rulers of the Arab countries including king Faisal of Iraq (both are blood brothers, their father was the Sharif of Mecca and both British agents) helped serve Britain\'s interests in the creation of Israel. I condemn them!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’ll gladly name and shame those so called Muslims who helped create Israel. King Abdullah of Jordan who made a secret agreement with the Jews that he would support them in taking Palestine as long as he was given the West Bank to incorporate into his Hashemite Kingdom. Abdullah said that he had no intention to “resist or impede the partition of Palestine and creation of a Jewish state.” So my friend King Abdullah of Jordan and the other rulers of the Arab countries including king Faisal of Iraq (both are blood brothers, their father was the Sharif of Mecca and both British agents) helped serve Britain’s interests in the creation of Israel. I condemn them!
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]]> By: Lex http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1095 Lex Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:06:20 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1095 The British created the whole 'Palestine problem' with the assistance of a so-called Islamic movement. Name them and condemn them. If that movement continue to spread its propaganda, there will be more Palestine problems.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1095','Lex'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1095','Lex','The British created the whole \'Palestine problem\' with the assistance of a so-called Islamic movement. Name them and condemn them. If that movement continue to spread its propaganda, there will be more Palestine problems.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The British created the whole ‘Palestine problem’ with the assistance of a so-called Islamic movement. Name them and condemn them. If that movement continue to spread its propaganda, there will be more Palestine problems.
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]]> By: Abu Hajjer http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1077 Abu Hajjer Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:06:19 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1077 <a href='#comment-1076' rel="nofollow">@Ab asino lanam</a> - The rulers are rotten, but not the people. There have been demonstrations all over the Arab world even though those who demonstrate know that they could easily be arrested or beaten up. You have people on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing asking to be let in to help the Palestinians. If you're referring to the 1967 war, that was a pathetic attempt by Gamal Abdul Nasr. Just before the war he asked the UN peace keeping forces in Sinai to leave effectively announcing to the world that he was planning an attack. If you're about to start a war with someone you don't give them prior notice so they can ready themselves and yet not even have your own air force ready. His air force should have been in the air monitoring the situation and carrying out sorties. Don't you think this may prove that perhaps Gamal Abdul Nasr was not sincerely trying to win the war? Armies can't win wars when their leaders have no intention of winning them. I don't want blood shed but what I do want is protection for the Palestinian people. This comes in the form of military defense, state boycotts, a cutting of diplomatic ties, etc... So far none of this has happened even though its very easy to do. Even Venezuela has expelled the Israeli ambassador. These rulers couldn't care less about anyone else and that's why all the Arab countries are in such a mess. Gaza is just the tip of the iceberg. So instead of investing all our energy in ineffective actions we should invest our energy in action that will lead to fundamental change and this is the best time to do it, as the pressure is mounting.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1077','Abu Hajjer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1077','Abu Hajjer','<a href=\'#comment-1076\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Ab asino lanam<\/a> - The rulers are rotten, but not the people. There have been demonstrations all over the Arab world even though those who demonstrate know that they could easily be arrested or beaten up. You have people on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing asking to be let in to help the Palestinians. \r\n\r\nIf you\'re referring to the 1967 war, that was a pathetic attempt by Gamal Abdul Nasr. Just before the war he asked the UN peace keeping forces in Sinai to leave effectively announcing to the world that he was planning an attack. If you\'re about to start a war with someone you don\'t give them prior notice so they can ready themselves and yet not even have your own air force ready. His air force should have been in the air monitoring the situation and carrying out sorties. Don\'t you think this may prove that perhaps Gamal Abdul Nasr was not sincerely trying to win the war? Armies can\'t win wars when their leaders have no intention of winning them.\r\n\r\nI don\'t want blood shed but what I do want is protection for the Palestinian people. This comes in the form of military defense, state boycotts, a cutting of diplomatic ties, etc... So far none of this has happened even though its very easy to do. Even Venezuela has expelled the Israeli ambassador. \r\n\r\nThese rulers couldn\'t care less about anyone else and that\'s why all the Arab countries are in such a mess. Gaza is just the tip of the iceberg. So instead of investing all our energy in ineffective actions we should invest our energy in action that will lead to fundamental change and this is the best time to do it, as the pressure is mounting.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Ab asino lanam – The rulers are rotten, but not the people. There have been demonstrations all over the Arab world even though those who demonstrate know that they could easily be arrested or beaten up. You have people on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing asking to be let in to help the Palestinians.

If you’re referring to the 1967 war, that was a pathetic attempt by Gamal Abdul Nasr. Just before the war he asked the UN peace keeping forces in Sinai to leave effectively announcing to the world that he was planning an attack. If you’re about to start a war with someone you don’t give them prior notice so they can ready themselves and yet not even have your own air force ready. His air force should have been in the air monitoring the situation and carrying out sorties. Don’t you think this may prove that perhaps Gamal Abdul Nasr was not sincerely trying to win the war? Armies can’t win wars when their leaders have no intention of winning them.

I don’t want blood shed but what I do want is protection for the Palestinian people. This comes in the form of military defense, state boycotts, a cutting of diplomatic ties, etc… So far none of this has happened even though its very easy to do. Even Venezuela has expelled the Israeli ambassador.

These rulers couldn’t care less about anyone else and that’s why all the Arab countries are in such a mess. Gaza is just the tip of the iceberg. So instead of investing all our energy in ineffective actions we should invest our energy in action that will lead to fundamental change and this is the best time to do it, as the pressure is mounting.

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]]> By: Ab asino lanam http://islamicpolitik.com/2009/01/gaza-and-the-wrong-solutions.html/comment-page-1#comment-1076 Ab asino lanam Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:54:58 +0000 http://islamicpolitik.com/?p=592#comment-1076 What are you talking about? The arabs countries are rotton to the core - both rulers and people! Just because a few army personal display some emotion (and you provide no evidence of this), it doesn't mean any actionable results. Even so, the Egyptian army proved its own futilty during the an-Naksah. I don't care for Isreal. But you seem to want further bloodshed? What will happen if you propose that the arabs go an intervene? You'll just get more begger-thy-neighbour narrow politiking.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1076','Ab asino lanam'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1076','Ab asino lanam','What are you talking about? The arabs countries are rotton to the core - both rulers and people! Just because a few army personal display some emotion (and you provide no evidence of this), it doesn\'t mean any actionable results. Even so, the Egyptian army proved its own futilty during the an-Naksah.\r\n\r\nI don\'t care for Isreal. But you seem to want further bloodshed? What will happen if you propose that the arabs go an intervene? You\'ll just get more begger-thy-neighbour narrow politiking.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What are you talking about? The arabs countries are rotton to the core – both rulers and people! Just because a few army personal display some emotion (and you provide no evidence of this), it doesn’t mean any actionable results. Even so, the Egyptian army proved its own futilty during the an-Naksah.

I don’t care for Isreal. But you seem to want further bloodshed? What will happen if you propose that the arabs go an intervene? You’ll just get more begger-thy-neighbour narrow politiking.

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